Rebecca Patterson on the cary trade, warns just 50% chance of a soft landing

Rebecca Patterson says soft landing is still 50%50%, retail may play a role in cary trade
  • Speaking on Bloomberg survallance, Patterson said it makes sense to listen to the investment banks such as JPMorgan, which said the cary trade is mostly done.  A few other banks have said similar.
  • Says we don’t know who was in the cary trade, but we should pay more attention to retail investors.  Retail investors are as large a part of the market as in 2007.
  • Looking at the economy, Patterson still thinks its 50/50 if we get a soft landing and the data has not confirmed either scenario.
  • Noted that earnings are ok but  earnings showing caution are still focused on the lower end consumer.  If the wealthier consumer gets more cautions, that could cause a “negative fly wheel” leading to a harder landing.
  • Patterson are already starting to see companies feel pressure from not being able to raise prices.  Says that if that continues it could feed into profit margins. 
  • Discussed that there are 2 stories to the soft consumer – the US consumer and the Chinese consumer.  See risk in softening Chinese consumer.
  • Patterson is skeptical on investing in Japan because their economy is dependent on the US.  Noted that geography is not enough to diversify.  because international equity markets are correlated in a downturn.  

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